Ask Jesse Episode 29: Diversity & Unity

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Show Notes by Victoria Lynn Hall

I know what it’s like to not be heard or understood.

It took me a long time to learn that there are some people who are never going to hear me or understand me no matter what I do or how hard I work to explain myself.

It’s taken me a little longer to realize that there are other people who are willing to listen and want to understand me better but it may take some effort on my part before they do. That can be frustrating but it is usually worth it, resulting in not only that person learning more about me but me learning more about them and myself.

In my opinion, this is how meaningful and lasting alliances are formed; through weathering misunderstandings and enduring difficult conversations.

It doesn’t take a slogan, a marketing team or funding. It just takes someone who is willing to be vulnerable enough to honestly share their story and someone who is willing to be open and interested enough to listen.

I find that when I remember to show up as one, I am more likely to find the other.

Let’s keep talking.

If you have a question or comment you want us to respond to on the show, you can email Jesse and I at or feel free to ask Jesse directly on Twitter.

If you’re interested in learning more about how to have real and difficult conversations, I highly recommend the work of Dr. Brene Brown. Check out her blog post: Let’s Rumble for a primer (or a refresher if you are familiar with her work).

In this episode Jesse talked about Biden’s problematic pick for Director of the Office of Management and Budget, Neera Tanden. You can read more about her in this piece by Matt Taibbi: With Tanden Choice, Democrats Stick it to Sanders Voters

I mentioned an article I couldn’t remember the name or source of – it was this interview with Alex Vitale, Professor of Sociology and Coordinator of Policing and Social Justice at Brooklyn College for NPR: How Much Do We Need The Police?

Here’s an article that offers a different perspective: Think twice about supporting police defunding

Jesse discussed how the more equitable society that existed in the United States after World War II was an anomaly in the history of capitalism. Learn more by listening to his solo podcast on The Myths of Postwar Capitalism.

Watch/listen to our full episode below or on YouTube where you can subscribe to all of our video content. We would also like to thank Kim D. for contributing her fabulous song, “Corporation Coup” for use as a theme for our videos, you can find the full recording of this song at:

Jesse Crall

A Los Angeles native, Jesse Crall graduated from UCLA’s English Department before working as a copywriter, script reader and project manager for an engineering firm.

A self taught artist and creative entrepreneur, Victoria Lynn Hall lives in the Kansas City area with 4 spoiled cats. She believes in art and the magic of kindness.

Published by amplifireproject

Creative Coordinator of Amplifire Project.

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