Ask Jesse Episode 25: Divided We Fall


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Show Notes by Victoria Lynn Hall

This past Sunday night I talked to my friend, Mary Hollywood on the phone for the first time in a few weeks and hearing her voice brought back a rush of memories. Mary, Kimberly Dullaghan (who does our theme song) and I became an unofficial team during our grassroots volunteer days for the Marianne Williamson for President campaign and have remained friends and collaborators ever since.

The profound friendships and sense of community that I’ve encountered during this election season has been the best thing about it for me and has tempered all the disappointments and depressing realizations with a sense of hope and possibility. However, not all of the friendships I have made along the way have been as enduring as the ones I have with Mary and Kim and many others.

As my political allegiances, knowledge and values evolved, it was just a natural consequence that I would part ways with some people and in most cases that occurred without hard feelings or angry words. In other cases, however, it seemed that people took my differing views as a personal betrayal or they judged me harshly for them and it was easy to determine that they weren’t true friends.

It’s easy to be friends with people when you agree but I think the moment a true friendship is forged is when you disagree with someone but still see the best in them; when you care enough about them that you are willing to take the time to understand their point of view rather than defending your own; and when your heart’s desire to do the right thing for them and your friendship overrides your mind’s desire to be right.

Maybe we can’t and shouldn’t be personal friends with everyone that way. I look back on the experiences I shared with Mary and Kim and can’t imagine going through them with any two other people. But if we want to be friends with our country and our world, we need to find our heart’s desire to do what’s right for it, even if that means making an effort to find common ground with the people we think are wrong.


Here’s a blog post about a project Mary, Kim and I worked on for a Marianne Williamson campaign for president event last year: The Marianne Mandala Grassroots Experience 

I recommend this short blog post by Brené Brown, adapted from her book Dare To Lead, about how to “rumble” (her term for having the difficult conversations that true connection requires): Let’s Rumble

Jesse mentioned this Chapo Trap House livestream:


Watch/listen to our full episode below or on YouTube where you can subscribe to all of our video content. We would also like to thank Kim D. for contributing her fabulous song, “Corporation Coup” for use as a theme for our videos, you can find the full recording of this song at: https://soundcloud.com/wondergalaxy13/corporation-coup

Episode 25

Jesse Crall

A Los Angeles native, Jesse Crall graduated from UCLA’s English Department before working as a copywriter, script reader and project manager for an engineering firm. Now pursuing a master’s degree in writing at NYU, he splits his time between Studio City and Manhattan. https://linktr.ee/jessecrall

A self taught artist and creative entrepreneur, Victoria Lynn Hall lives in the Kansas City area with 4 spoiled cats. She believes in art and the magic of kindness.

linktr.ee/victorialynnhall

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